When you get an infection or a vaccine, the body makes a HUGE number of temporary antibody secreting cells called plasmablasts. These are evolutionarily “designed” to infuse a huge and robust antibody response capable of clearing an active infection 5/
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But over the month or so after the infection or vaccine, the plasmablasts have to die off - it is their fate. Over the coming weeks and months so too do the antibodies they produced. What remains after is usually a much smaller antibody producing cellular subset 6/
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So I am a bit hesitant to jump on board with the >90% efficacy results because the time scale of the phase 3 studies thus far match the time scale of the temporary plasmablast duration and the antibodies they produced... 7/
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So, w these early efficacy results, we may be measuring the effects of an impressive front line army that spins up in response to the vaccine - but then we should be careful not to assume the same efficacy persists to hold that line after most of the troops disappear! 8/
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That all said - what these two vaccines show is they hit the nail on the head to find the right protein to immunize against! Only time and careful follow up will tell how much the >90% efficacy of the two vaccines holds after the early vaccine responses fade away. 9/
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This is btw generally why we must monitor durability of vaccine responses over time. And why we have to always be careful to interpret efficacy within the parameters of the data we have (here - early months post vaccine) Also - we don’t know about transmission blocking... 10/
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To learn about the actual benefits long term of the vaccine reaponse - it will take continued post market analysis. The controls will likely get the vaccine - so a new type of vaccine study that is not as well controlled will ensue to measure longer term effects. 11/
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Also - I’m not speaking in black and white terms here. Either way, immunity will likely persist. It’s not binary. B and T cells are produced At population level, we must wait to see if 94% efficacy to fully block symptomatic disease becomes 90% or if it becomes 50%, or 30% 12/
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And even if it becomes 50% to stop total symptomatic disease, it could remain 90% to stop severe disease. This, like testing and everything else is simply NOT a binary issue and also is NOT a simple issue meant for describing over Twitter.... 13/
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Creating synthetic mRNA for cures/vaccines is the future of medicine imo. Turns it (mostly) into a software & modeling problem.

Nov 16, 2020 · 7:37 PM UTC

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This what at CureVac is doing?
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CureVac, Moderna & a few others. Tesla makes the machine CureVac uses to go from known gene sequence to trillions of lipid-coated mRNA strands.
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This is has got a great potential, not only to cure some infections diseases, but can cure most diseases in general that has a genetic component driving them (mainly replication) which also includes most cancer types
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Maybe one good thing to come out of this just like in war...
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I'm more worried about reports that baby yoda ate the astronauts.
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When will the rewrite include highway driving that is currently running navigate on autopilot?
4 wheel steering on Cybertruck? Yah or nah?
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"Karikó said the advantage of the mRNA-based vaccine is that it can be produced quickly, plus it does not cause infection because it does not contain the entire gene pool of the virus and is therefore safe." rmx.news/article/article/hun…
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Build a mRNA + lipid printer. Build millions that can sit in every doctors offices in the world. Just distribute the information needed for every type of vaccine. Come on, build it.
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Not only vaccines but cures. mRNA can instruct cells to make any type of protein, not just the virus spike proteins.
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That’s worrisome. Most code changes have unintended consequences (even with unit testing). Computers are rebootable, but does rebooting work in humans? #ComplexSystems
What about understanding causation of illness better. Consequence of eating high lectin vegetable, seed oils, carbohydrates, sugar, HFCS, there are two elements to illness prevention and treatment.?
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🌬 @elonmusk Can you still find cures in the ocean fr?
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